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"Joe_Limon" (Joe_Limon) 02/02/2014 at 12:36 • Filed to: None

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I brought my family out to go sit in a CTS to show them what the CTS Wagon's interior will be like.

First and foremost, the thing that is getting us to purchase a new vehicle is having a baby on the way, and the need/want for a vehicle that can haul a baby, 11y/o and two 70+ lb dogs. Sadly, my Impreza isn't going to cut it for much longer. The CTS wagon is the ideal vehicle in my mind, lots of storage space, comfy, dogs have room without sitting all over the seats and it is easy to access the baby. However, my fiancee was of a slightly different mindset. She was picturing upgrading to something closer to the size of a minivan. I will be damned if I purchase a minivan as my daily driver...

So when I showed her a regular CTS sedan telling her the interior is very similar, only with far more cargo capacity, she instantly rejected the idea saying, "nope nope nope".

Upon seeing my broken face, she immediately amended her initial reaction saying that she was saying nope to the sedan, and she is still open to sitting in the wagon. Her biggest gripe against the interior was that she couldn't picture hauling all of our cargo, two dogs, my soon to be mother in law and the baby to be on vacation, not this summer, but the summer after. I do NOT want to be stuck in a minivan or "suv" just for a trip that is going to happen a year and a half from now.

What makes it worse, is that as we were leaving the dealership, she pointed out a Buick Enclave saying that is what she had in mind... but without the third row of seats. So the dogs would have somewhere to sit.

My plan of attack now, is to convince her that even if we get a full sized SUV, we won't have the space to carry both dogs and all of our luggage for that one trip. This should work decently since she was hoping to rent a truck/trailer instead of staying in hotel rooms for two weeks.

Wish me luck!

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:39

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Tell her you ll rent a minivan for that coming trip

Lets Just Drive > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:40

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Subaru. SuuuuuBaaaaRuuuuu!

Brian Silvestro > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:40

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Don't get an SUV/Minivan. You'll regret it every day of your life if it's not what you want.

BeaterGT > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:40

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Isn't the CTS wagon cheaper on insurance and more fuel efficient as well?

heliochrome85 > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:40

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if you are going luxo-barge, i vote used QX56.

dogisbadob > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:40

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The CTS wagon is awesome. Grab one while you can! Or even if not, there's always CPO.

Good luck!

Joe_Limon > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 02/02/2014 at 12:40

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Did you make it to the bottom of my wall of text?

heliochrome85 > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:40

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or 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham.

SteyrTMP > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:41

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Get ahold of me if/when you sell the Impreza... year, trim?

An Outback won't do it? There's plenty of room for the dogs in the back of one of those... I have one, I should know. Or even the Forester, circa 04-05ish.

Jayhawk Jake > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:42

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Wait. It sounds like you need to show her the wagon before freaking out.

She seems to have 'SUV Syndrome', where she thinks the only way to have space is to be in an SUV. You showed her a sedan, which is obviously not spacious. The wagon is much more spacious.

Joe_Limon > BeaterGT 02/02/2014 at 12:42

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Over two years the CTS will use about $500 less on fuel compared to an enclave or tribeca, and I'm not sure about insurance.

Flavien Vidal > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:42

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Good luck... I have no kid and don't plan on getting any, but the choice of car is a daily fight with my wife... Luckily for now she likes old Mercedes wagon which will be perfect as a car for her... Hopefully the minivan conversation never happen again... Good luck and never give up. It's all I can say ;)

505Turbeaux > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:42

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heck of alot of Roadmaster Estates out there. Have her sit in a nice one of those (she is going to say it is toooooo biiiiiiiig and you will have more leverage on the CTS). My kids mom freaked out when I showed up with my Buick, until we took our first family vacation in it. She ended up driving it more than me.

Joe_Limon > SteyrTMP 02/02/2014 at 12:43

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We both detest the look of the outback.

Our current Impreza is a 2009 black manual 2.5i sedan with about 60,000 miles (100,000km since I'm in Canada)

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:45

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How about a Honda Odyssey? Or is that a no go?

Joe_Limon > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 02/02/2014 at 12:46

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Joe_Limon > Jayhawk Jake 02/02/2014 at 12:48

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I also need to get her to sit in an SUV with my mother in law and son, and ask her if we can also comfortably fit two dogs and a baby seat. without a third row :P

I_AmDeath > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:49

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Off topic: Why do people buy bigger cars then they could ever possibly need because once a year or so they do something that requires a bigger car.

Timmy - MINI With a Big Blower > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:49

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Turbo it!

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:50

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OK OK OK :) I happen to like it, you don't. That's fair :)

Tekamul > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 02/02/2014 at 12:50

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He has 2 kids, 2 dogs, and 1 fear of reality.

GhostZ > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:51

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...buy two cars or a car and a truck + 2x gas and insurance for the cost of one CTS wagon?

Joe_Limon > I_AmDeath 02/02/2014 at 12:51

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There are times I feel like having a truck would be smart... but so far I've managed to make due with an Impreza, hauling everything from Christmas trees to 350sq ft of flooring.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Tekamul 02/02/2014 at 12:52

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I'm single, no kids, no pets.. I drive a Mitsubishi Lancer Estate :P

SteyrTMP > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:53

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I dunno... I dig it:

Albeit, the older models. The post-07 versions have turned into a bloated SUV-ish thing. A Dodge Magnum is considerably better than those.

I_AmDeath > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:53

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Yeah but its smart maybe 4days out of 365.

Joe_Limon > GhostZ 02/02/2014 at 12:53

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I'm looking at getting a used wagon with around 40,000 miles on it in the $25,000 range. I don't want to buy two beater cars a truck and fuel/insurance to cover it all.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:53

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I missed the last paragraph, meh

I_AmDeath > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:54

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You could also buy a mini van for like $500-1000. They are the best cheap vehicles condition wise because they are unloved.

A3R0 > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:55

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Sorry to be on the bad side, but we (my family) had a Buick Enclave, and it was great interms of interior space. We're on to a LR3 now, which is also nice. All I have to say is that the Buick Enclave is SO slow.

GhostZ > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:55

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Nvm, you're doing good work.

CPT Speedbump > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 12:58

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Buy whatever you want - rent a mini van for the trip. Fixed.

Joe_Limon > A3R0 02/02/2014 at 13:02

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It's alright, as far as minivans go it was one of the nicer looking ones ;)

A3R0 > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 13:08

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Yup, I'm young enough that I'm to young to drive in CT (driving age is 16), and my parents didn't get another minivan after I turned about 5. And I have 2 brothers.

I consider a minivan to be something like an Odessey and that Buick to be an SUV. So when I said minivan I meant something along the lines of an Odessey.

A3R0 > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 13:12

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By the way, the "SUV's" have equal to or more room than a minivan. Do yourself a favor and don't buy a minivan, because who wants one of those.

BlythBros. > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 13:16

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You should just rent a minvan for your trip. Wanting space for the other 99.9% of your life is very reasonable though. Good luck on this - sounds frustrating as hell.

Joe_Limon > A3R0 02/02/2014 at 13:23

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I was kidding, to me they are on par with each other.

Joe_Limon > BlythBros. 02/02/2014 at 13:23

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Yep, I agree with the rental route, it seems like the smart alternative.

Josh G > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 02/02/2014 at 13:25

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I ignored the last paragraph too.

Montalvo > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 13:35

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As soon as she pointed out the Buick Enclave, I would have just "instantly rejected the idea saying nope nope nope." I am rooting for you to keep pushing for the wagon, but if you are getting a SUV though I would recommend the Ford Expedition. At any point in my life there was an expedition that has carried me thousands of miles and took all of my stuff for college or summer vacation in one trip. It is comfortable and has more than enough grunt to move itself out of the way. You could probably get a good deal on a used one and mechanically they are as bulletproof as they come.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Josh G 02/02/2014 at 13:38

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good for you!

Joe_Limon > Montalvo 02/02/2014 at 13:39

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That is exactly how I handled the situation, I believe my exact words were "Nope, I am not buying a minivan"

BeaterGT > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 13:42

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$500 in diapers. These are strong selling points here!

BeaterGT > SteyrTMP 02/02/2014 at 13:43

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None of those look suitable for a family.

SteyrTMP > BeaterGT 02/02/2014 at 13:46

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Hrmm... how so?

John Norris (AngryDrifter) > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 13:48

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Was this you and her checking out the vista cruiser?

KnifeKnut > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 14:15

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Honda Crosstour? Brown AWD Wagon. Or maybe an Acura wagon?

Lazzris > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 14:24

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Roof top carrier for the trip. No mini van or full size SUV just for one trip. Or maybe rent A car for the trip.

GoliathRex > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 14:29

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This!

Purchasing a vehicle for a trip you MIGHT take in 2 YEARS is silly. Get a car that you like- which suits your needs for the next 700 days+ and rent a van for the weekend.

The Compromiser > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 02/02/2014 at 14:59

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I've three children and I've got the legally obligated minivan. I call it the wife's car though so I dodge that bullet ( kinda)

Of course my vehicle is much more fun.

Joe_Limon > Lazzris 02/02/2014 at 16:39

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Can I get roof racks on a cts? (edit) of course I can! genius, my dad has an old pod I can borrow if I invest in a simple set of rails.

Lazzris > Joe_Limon 02/02/2014 at 19:36

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problem solved your welcome